Four Pillars of Destiny – Stinginess in the Chart

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Note: Two years ago I wrote a detailed article on the life French traditional astrological practitioner Jean Baptiste Morin by using the Four Pillars of Destiny branch of Chinese Astrology.

The Four Pillars of Destiny is an incredible system of knowledge. I never cease to amaze myself as to how much information is encoded in BaZi – information that is not a priority for Ancient Astrology and / or is not easy to notice there, or is not present in the Western horoscopes.

As in Ancient Western Astrology, character descriptions are used in Chinese astrology. It is important to understand that this is not psychology in the majority of cases; these are not behavioral patterns, be they inherited or learned, which one can simply change. In these cases, it is about deep personal characteristics. These are characteristics that – as I will illustrate – are extremely difficult, if at all possible, to change by the native.


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I’ll give 2 sample horoscopes from the Four Pillars of Destiny.


I have known this this guy (which I will call E1 – example 1) for about 10 years. Unfortunately, he does not know his hour of birth, and I do not know important events from his life so I can rectify his natal chart without a time of birth, but the BaZi allows one in many cases to read the chart even with an unknown time of birth.

E1 is a wealthy man. It’s not about millions (at least as far as I know) and sums of this kind, but having a few expensive cars, having apartments in some of the largest cities in the country + other real estate, etc., are definite indications of financial wealth

At the same time, E1 is an extremely stingy man and one who is looking to end up paying as little as possible. Not only is he looking to save money, but is ready to suffer inconveniences, such as changing his plans in his spare time only so he can pay slightly less. To clarify, these are sums of 2-3-5 Euros to be saved. Not only that, but it is about saving an insignificant amount of money and suffering inconveniences, even when this saving is done once per month or even less often than that.

So what shows stinginess in the Four Pillars of Destiny?

One of the main indications is when Wealth is buried in the Hidden Stems. The native is Yang Earth and the Wealth element is the Water. Notice the Direct Wealth, the Yin Water that is buried beneath the two Dragons.

At the same time, the native is handsome, has a pleasant voice, is eloquent and possesses a certain charisma. This is shown by the following factors:

  • 6 The Harmony combination of Dragon and Rooster, which gives Metal, and Metal rules the ability to relate to people;
  • The Peach Blossom star, namely the Rooster, which is in the Annual Pillar and is in one of the most noticeable places in the Four Pillars of Destiny;
  • The Rooster contains the Hurting Officer, which shows intelligence, being fond of fame and reputation, cunning.

I want to emphasize that even though the native is very stingy, he does not spare when it comes to indulging himself and his family. On the contrary, he loves luxury. In other words, the traits of character must be carefully determined rather than making assumptions in the 4 Pillars of Destiny. In this case, the Hurting Officer is Yin Metal. The Yin Metal is like a jewel, like something beautiful. Such people place much importance on their luxury and appearance and do not spare money on it.


Example 2:


I have known the native (E2) for many years. Unlike E1, who is only my acquaintance, E2 is a friend of mine whom I know a lot about.

E2 is an excellent example of the depth of certain certain traits of the character, in this case the stinginess. In fact, I was with E2 just the other day and I told him (after another complaining of his for more wealth and how he does not get what he deserves) about my idea of ​​writing an article about the stinginess the Four Pillars of Destiny. Even when I told him he would be present in the article, he laughed and approved.

Like E1, in the Bazi chart of E2, the Wealth is buried in the Hidden Stems. The native is Yang Wood, and the Wealth element is Earth, which is contained in the Dog (Indirect Wealth) and in the Monkey (Indirect Wealth), although the 3 Harmony Combination with the Rat turns the Monkey into Water, and the Wealth there is transformed into Resources.

E2 is also a stingy man. While he cannot (for now) compare to E1 in terms of wealth, E2’s standard of living is definitely high. The key here is that E2 was stingy from the moment we met. He was stingy when he was working at another company, he was stingy when he was unemployed, and he remains stingy to this day despite the standard of living he has. That is, just as E1, whose wealth has grown since we have known each other, and yet E1 is just as stingy today, E2 is the same.

Having an expensive car, having an apartment in one of the best neighbourhoods in the capital, being the manager of ten people, visiting dozens of countries – literally from the USA to eastern China – definitely speaks for a standard that is above the average.

Meanwhile, E2 is constantly complaining about the injustice in his life, how little he has, and how others, less skilled than him, are much wealthier than him, whether through connections or shadowy activities / transactions “under the table “. One of those E2 complains about is E1. E2 is a friend of E1 and likes to give me examples of how stingy E1 is. But when I say to E2 that he is actually the same in this respect as E1, he changes the subject of our conversation.

Like E1, E2 is willing to suffer inconveniences, he is willing to change his plans on his days off, as well as almost risk his health just to save 2-3-5 Euros, once a month, or even less often than that.

E2, however, is also an honest, responsible and very hard-working man. This is shown by the type of chart he has, which belongs to those of the Special structures. Also, unlike E1, in the Four Pillars of Destiny of P2, the Controlling Element, the Direct Officer, is in the Heavenly Stems. This shows that the native is highly disciplined, follows the rules and is very ambitious.

Like E1, E2 loves luxury and looks for it. Again, the fact that a native is very stingy does not mean that he / she does not indulge himself/herself. In order to distinguish whether or not a native will indulge, it is necessary to consider more factors in the Four Pillars of Destiny chart.




It is important to understand why this information is presented. The goal is not to point at other people, emphasizing their “negative” traits of character. The goal here is to indicate how deep some of these characteristics are, and that neither the passage of time, nor the appearance of other people in the life of the native, nor the many experiences this native has had, can radically change these character traits.

E2 has been a friend of mine before I got into Astrology or Chinese Metaphysics. Seeing these traits in his Four Pillars of Destiny chart (and partly in his western horoscope) has in no way altered our friendship over the years, nor will it change for the future, as far as this feature is concerned, even though his wealth will increase even more in the future, and he will still continue to complain of the injustice in his fate.



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